MYSTERY WIRE — Millions of people have now watched George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell talking with Joe Rogan during a podcast. If you want to know more about the topics that were covered in this three hour podcast, keep reading.
Joe Rogan Podcast
Joe Rogan & George Knapp Discuss Skinwalker Ranch
Skinwalker Ranch is in northeast Utah and has been the site of many strange sightings, including UFOs and beasts that defy explanation.
Many Mystery Wire reports on Skinwalker Ranch cross over into accounts about government-funded studies involving UFOs:
- John Alexander on Skinwalker Ranch, research money — Part 2 (Oct. 20, 2017)
- Pentagon UFO study catches attention of Congress (Dec. 21, 2017)
- AAWSAP got UFO studies – and a lot more – started in 2007 (June 27, 2018)
- Forces at Skinwalker Ranch may confound science … but not forever (June 27, 2018)
- ‘It feels like a harvest’ … what Native Americans know (Jan. 25, 2019)
- Skinwalker Ranch stories continue to baffle investigators (Dec. 8, 2019)
- Skinwalker Ranch’s owner revealed as Utah real estate mogul (March 10, 2020
- Cameras, sensors collecting info at Skinwalker Ranch, new owner says (March 11, 2020)
- Coronavirus, Skinwalker Ranch and UFO politics — PODCAST (March 13, 2020)
- Skinwalker Ranch owner goes on camera (March 16, 2020)
- Live from Skinwalker Ranch (March 30, 2020)
- The U.K. has a location similar to ‘Skinwalker Ranch’ (April 9, 2020)
- The Navajo Skinwalker gains new interest (April 9, 2020)
Joe Rogan Podcast
How Bob Lazar’s Story Changed George Knapp’s Thoughts on UFOs
MYSTERY WIRE — In 1989, Bob Lazar blew the lid off the government’s UFO secrets. The story Lazar told George Knapp back in 1989 is fairly simple:
- While working at the S-4 base just south of Area 51 near Papoose Lake
- He saw nine alien spacecraft: “Certainly these crafts came from another … not just another planet, another solar system entirely. Extremely far away. And they’re here.”
- He saw photos of alien autopsies
- He saw and worked on technology of unknown origin
His first interview in a Las Vegas parking lot. A silhouetted figure in a van going by the name “Dennis” told a wild story in the only language he knew — the techno-speaking government scientist who was careful not to speculate beyond what he had actually seen with his own eyes.
Lazar later allowed his real identity to be used — as the government tried to erase any trace of Lazar’s employment, and even his education.
The Area 51 phenomenon was born. Since then, tens of thousands of curious visitors have made the journey to Rachel, Nevada, which has become a tourist haven of alien proportions.
Lazar’s account was consistent as the years went by. A lie-detector test didn’t put a dent in his story.
Still, he constantly battled allegations that he was a government pawn. The allegations were either that the government fed him exactly what they wanted the public to know and then discredited him, or that he was a liar who made up the entire story. Several government employees corroborated Lazar’s presence at S-4.
Links to stories
- Bob Lazar describes alien technology housed at secret S-4 base in Nevada (Nov. 10, 1989)
- Bob Lazar convinced disks were alien, calls UFO secret ‘unfair outright’ (Nov. 13, 1989)
- UFOs: The Best Evidence? Part 2 (May 1, 1990)
- Area 51 knowns and unknowns six years after Bob Lazar’s revelation (Nov. 24, 1995)
- Crowds streamed to Rachel, Nevada, for years hoping for Area 51 UFO glimpses (Nov. 29, 1996)
- Tom DeLonge’s take on Bob Lazar, and the scale of secret bases (April 22, 2016)
- Bob Lazar’s UFO story makes it to the big screen UFO (Dec. 12, 2018)
- Bob Lazar: The man who sent shock waves through UFO circles 30 years ago (May 15, 2019)
- How Bob Lazar interviews match up with Pentagon’s UFO admissions (May 16, 2019)
- UFO Fest means close encounters of a different kind (May 21, 2019)
- Exclusive: ‘Storm Area 51’ joke explodes, little Nevada town prepares (July 17, 2019)
- New York Times reviews cultural phenomenon of #StormArea51 (Oct. 31, 2019)
- Bob Stoldal, George Knapp on challenges of revealing Area 51 story — PODCAST (Nov. 14, 2019)
- Spy plane pilot backs Lazar’s presence at Area 51, secret S-4 base (Nov. 30, 2019)
- Bob Lazar’s accuracy on UFOs, Area 51’s front door, and ‘clearing’ a controversial book (Feb. 20, 2020)
- Area 51 whistleblower takes a lie detector test (April 30, 2020)
During the podcast, Knapp produced two never before made public documents in manila folders. He gave both to Rogan, to which Rogan asked jokingly if he was going to get in trouble by even holding them. He shouldn’t be getting a knock on the door by government agents anytime soon. But he was holding documents many people have been hoping to see for years.
The documents are two of 38 Defense Intelligence Reference Documents (DIRDs) researched and written for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
Mystery Wire has collected dozens of documents we are now sharing with the public. The two new DIRDs are linked on this page along with other documents about government projects, Area 51, atomic tests and much more.
Current list of Defense Intelligence Reference Documents (DIRD):
- Metamaterials for Aerospace Applications
- Introduction to the Statistical Drake Equation
- Warp Drives, Dark Energy, and Dimensions
- Invisibility Cloaking: Theory and Experiments
- Traversable Wormholes, Stargates, and Negative Energy
- Advanced Space Propulsion Based on Vacuum
- Detection and High Resolution of Vehicles at Hypersonic Velocities
- Metallic Glasses: Status and Prospects for Aerospace Applications
- Material for Advanced Aerospace Platform
- State of the Art and Evolution of High-Energy Laser Weapons
Jeremy Corbell (@JeremyCorbell) is a documentary filmmaker. His film Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers is available on Netflix. Corbell has appeared on Rogan’s Podcast twice, once with Lazar and retired Navy Commander David Fravor.
Fravor is a retired US Navy pilot who had an encounter with a UFO while flying a Super Hornet from the USS Nimitz in 2004. Mystery Wire has documented the effort to release these videos and the eventual admission by the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) that the videos were real and show still unidentified flying objects. Or as the government now calls them, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
- Department of Defense makes ‘Tic Tac’, ‘Flir’, and ‘Gimbal’ videos public
- Former Pentagon intelligence officer reacts to UFO video release
- Lawmakers ask for unclassified UFO report in new intelligence bill
The release of the three videos discussed during this podcast was only made possible by the efforts of Luis Elizondo.
Through his career as an intelligence officer for the U.S. Army and the Department of Defense, Elizondo saw things that he couldn’t explain. And his bosses weren’t interested in those kinds of conversations. To explore this, Elizondo quit his Pentagon assignment on Oct. 4, 2017.
Elizondo is a primary reason we know about the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and Harry Reid’s role in funding the program exposed by the New York Times in December 2017. He’s also the guy who got former U.S. Navy Cmdr. David Fravor to tell his story about a UFO sighted by Navy crews in 2004 off the coast of Southern California. That UFO is now known as the “Tic Tac” UFO.
Elizondo now serves as the Director of Government Programs and Services for To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA).
TTSA is a company co-founded by Tom DeLonge, guitarist of Blink-182 and Angels & Airwaves; Harold E. Puthoff; and Jim Semivan, a former senior Intelligence Officer with the CIA. Puthoff was the chief scientist for Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS), a private contractor based in Las Vegas, which spent years studying UFOs for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).
Tom DeLonge has also sat down with Joe Rogan to record a podcast.