A “top secret upgrade on spyware” in 2004 was the key to military sightings of UFOs, a new report indicates.

A former U.S. Navy Senior Chief Operations specialist interviewed on the “Truth Be Told” podcast and reported Wednesday by the Daily Star said it’s possible that UFOs were always there, but we weren’t seeing them. The upgrade changed the playing field.

Kevin Day said, “I think because of these upgrades we were suddenly able to see things that had always been there.” Day specialized in radar systems and is a Top Gun air intercept controller.

Read the full report here.