Please also read this personal commentary from George Knapp. https://www.mysterywire.com/ufo/aatip-aawsap-elizondo/ Lue Elizondo gave us his first long-form, on camera interview in January 2018, a few weeks after the New York Times story broke. In that interview, he never mentioned AAWSAP because, at the time, it was not publicly known. By June 2018, the secret was out. KLAS-TV had aired multiple news stories about it and revealed documents including the contract signed by DIA and Bigelow, so in that second interview, Elizondo addressed questions we posed about the two efforts. This interview has been posted on our website since June 2018. Those supposedly pro-UFO twitfologists who now find themselves somehow confused have no one to blame but themselves … for being too lazy to review information and materials that have been widely available more than three years. These are pertinent excerpts from the 2018 interview with Elizondo.